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Site Rules & Design Submission Guidelines (Last Updated: 25 May 2008)
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Looks like someone deleted my comment about the previews being in a Frame and content in secondary frames not being read by search engine spiders anyway. Is there a reason my comment was moderated?Posted 3 years ago #
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No comments have been deleted in this thread (if there were I would see them). But the frame's content can still get indexed, you've only got to look at Google's Indexes to see that is being picked up.Posted 3 years ago #
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@Christopher: You beat me too it about the designs being indexed. It's good you posted the Google results link so people can confirm what we've been saying all along.Posted 3 years ago #
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I noticed it to. I looked at the code and noticed the frames being called separately rather than use a main.htm file.Posted 3 years ago #
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I actually think that the community will come to regret it but hey I've done my bit and said my piece. It's not like it's going to be the end of the world. It is a little sad that the old community has died away so quickly. To look at the designs now things look so commercial. It also look now that the site belongs to the commercial people. Jenna is now our new leader? Where is LobsterMan?Posted 3 years ago #
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@ainslie: I agree with you and it's very sad that a lot of the core/old community has died away. A few of us are still around on the site as you know but a lot have also moved on to other "non drama" and less stressful related projects. I don't blame them.Posted 3 years ago #
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We been robbed I tell you! You mark my words. Call me old school but I don't want to see this open source thing go to hell. Can we have the domain name and move it to a new project? Can anyone point me in the direction of such a project?Posted 3 years ago #
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I am part of the core/old community and I am still alive :) so it just goes to show, old or new... not everyone has the same opinons on how a site like this should be run. But then that's common sense I guess.
Posted By: ainslieIt also look now that the site belongs to the commercial people. Jenna is now our new leader? Where is LobsterMan?
Commercial people? There are some hobbyists and downloaders voting 'yes' as well. And as for me being the new leader lol what's that all about? I just gave my opinion on the matter that's all... I'm not taking over... yet :tongue: mowahaha! kidding! :wink:Posted 3 years ago # -
Sean: oh, I get it. Deleted comments become admin-visible-only. Nifty. Jenna taking over! :shocked:Posted 3 years ago #
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Posted By: gnomeSean: oh, I get it. Deleted comments become admin-visible-only. Nifty.
What do you mean? I think you were directing this towards Christopher and not me, however, yes, admins can see all... dun dun DUN!Posted 3 years ago # -
He meant Christopher I think?Posted 3 years ago #
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Posted By: gnomeJenna taking over! :shocked:
Haha! Nope *shakes head*Posted 3 years ago # -
Ok, so just what are the rules going to be with sponsored links? Can you sum up for me please Christopher?Posted 3 years ago #
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Posted By: ainslieIt is a little sad that the old community has died away so quickly.
Many are still here. This is still the best community on the net. I have learned so much here and appreciate all the honesty and hard work that went into this site. If people did not express themselves and accept changes, this site could potentially look like OSWD. Change is not always bad, but will not always make everyone happy.Posted 3 years ago # -
I feel that one solution to MANY of our problems would be a link in the design preview that allows community members to report violations. The complaints can be logged and the templates in question can be taken care of. If there are complaints about something that is going on that hasn't yet been discussed, an admin can start a discussion to see what the community feels is proper for that case and the future.Posted 3 years ago #
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I know many of the old users are here but the ideology seems to have changed. Most of the Admins hardly seem bothered about the site. Most template uploads are by the same people flooding the site. It's not about us, the people who founded this site. It's all about money and those that only want to push their company. It's not about the budding web designer trying to get recognition like it used to be! Having been around OSWD OWD and OD and now seen them all fail to live up to what they should have been, I'm disapointed. Already I have seen people remark that uploads and downloads are down. What else can you expect? It's only a matter of time unless we break the current apathy. But hey it's only a website. :sad: Ok, so do we have a new rule on sponsored links? Or are we still no further on?Posted 3 years ago #
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Yes, Christopher set the new rules:
Posted By: ChristopherBut guess what? I'm changing the rules right now, I'm fed up with visiting the forum only to find 50+ posts going round in circles. So I'm throwing my weight around and putting the below into effect immediately.
I am also amending the rules to state that all outbound links in design previews will have rel="nofollow" added to them. Might need some help coding up the script to make this automated though, so help is more than welcome!Sponsored Links
You are welcome to include sponsored links in your template(s) under the following conditions: 1. Users must be free to remove the sponsored link(s) if they wish - you cannot force a user to keep the sponsored link(s) in as one of the terms of use for the template. 2. A maximum of 2 (two) sponsored links per individual template is allowed. The Open Designs site administrators and moderators have the final decision on what is classed as a sponsored link.Posted 3 years ago # -
Thank you, I've been up and down this thread and trying to make sense of it all. But did he?
Posted By: ChristopherI'm not really sure it's needed either, especially as links in the design preview will have rel="nofollow" appended to them. Maybe we should remove the limit of 2 links then? Thoughts everyone?
All I asked was for clarification!Posted 3 years ago # -
Ainslie, I set those rules Aaron quoted last Saturday - when you then replied with "Bloody hell! :cry:". I then stated that they would be changed/amended once we'd had some decent constructive input, I asked the question should we remove the limit of 2 links and only got a couple of replies. So as of yet nothing more has been done except for the rules I originally added.Posted 3 years ago #
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Ok, thank you. Err... I guess it must be my age.Posted 3 years ago #
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I'm pleased we've got something in place. It was definately needed. However it's been pointed out that google indexes the preview pages directly bypassing the nofollow on the preview page. Now since these won't have a nofollow on the allowed sponsored links isn't this going to have a negative effect on OD and its own ranking? -MarkPosted 3 years ago #
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The nofollow will be added on the design previews, which are pages like [/designs/3], the "preview pages" you see when clicking on designs is just a frameset with the link above in one of the frames. We're just doing some final testing on the script to write in the rel="nofollow" and then it should hopefully be implemented sometime soon.Posted 3 years ago #
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Will you be running it on already uploaded templates?Posted 3 years ago #
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Mike: I can only assume that it parses the page as it displays it rather than when it is added to the list. I'm pretty sure it will apply to all designs past, present and future. I'd also like to go ahead and voice my opinion on the number of sponsored links. I don't see a need to a hard limit, but I would just state that a design can be rejected due to "excessive external links", and that "excessive external links" is up to the discretion of the admin approving the design.Posted 3 years ago #
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Let's just keep it at two links. What's the NEED to have so many? If don't limit the amount of links you'll find most the designs we get are those boring blogs with the whole lot filled with them... and here's the prtoblem with that. Other designers come and have a look at this site and see poor quality link filled designs - We want our sites to have a wide range and not have the admins queued up with poor designs. It will make the site look spammy and cheap and not very open source. Let's keep it at two and if a designer wants more he can fill his own website up with them not us. And if his family goes hungry because of it then they can plead their case on the forum and ask for a donation from all the caring members here who wanted sponsored links for cash porr designers. If we leave it to the admins to determine what is 'appropriate' then they have another responsibility to take care of , that being, deciding, discussing and justifying why design A has 32 links and design B has 23 links. If everyone has two then it will put everyone on an even par. Designs with lots of sponsored links look trashy.Posted 3 years ago #
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Well I tried to save us from hell, but if you can't beat them... Come on lets go for unlimited. I can make a mint. :bigsmile:Posted 3 years ago #
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I think some people are under the impression that anything has changed as far as the type of templates coming through. Go back a few weeks before this. Whats different as far as what's permitted? nothing at all. A few weeks ago we could put as many sponsored links in our designs as we'd like. Spamming wasn't an issue then and there's absolutely no reason to think there would be now... In fact, no one noticed or cared about them until someone pointed ONE link out.Posted 3 years ago #
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Jeremy, last week no one thought a design would be released that had an unremovable sponsored link, but it did... We're discussing the future just as much if not more than the presence. Give it time, if there is no limit on the number of links there will be a gradual seeping of them into the designs. Lets try to be proactive and not just reactive, therefore we won't have to have big discussions again in 6 months time.Posted 3 years ago #
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@JeremyD: As Pete pointed out, the original issue was a paid/sponsored link that couldn't be removed. To the best of my knowledge, this was the first time this has ever happened... so yes, it opened the door for the conversation that's going on now...Posted 3 years ago #
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This is not a new issue to the internet. I would have thought that many people would have seen this same conversation in other communities. I think it is a fair point that nobody cared a few weeks ago but they should have done and it should have been considered months ago. I really don't see what is wrong with people stating that they either do or don't like "sponsored links" in templates. It seems to me that people resent the conversation and want to silence people from talking about it. The trouble is that the community is spilt by this topic as other communities have been before. It is damaging and will leave many no longer giving support like they used to but it will settle down and OD will live or die. But don't gte me wrong. What is done is done. It's what happens in the future that will make a difference. Lets work on that rather than the past.Posted 3 years ago #
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