first of all, i didn't think he was going to throw it away, or even adopt this, i just wanted to help form something that would help joe understand what we are pushing for.
secondly, unless I am mistaken, wordpress is being used and the designs are just themes. As much as possible, i tried to leave the complex HTML (the design previews and forum lists and form threads) the same so that if there was a transition to my design it would be fast.
I really like what joe has done here and i understand his position so this is against joe or anything.
also, no i haven't talked to joe (probably should have, sorry).
EDIT: the navigation breaks really bad in the IE7 (it displays block level instead of inline level anyone have any ideas. i think i might know what to do but I am school right now and can't fix it presently.