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      CommentAuthorChristopher
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007 edited by Christopher on the 30th April 2007 at 07:05:21 EDT
     
    Soon we shall be adding Google Adsense to this site to bring in some money which we can then put towards using as prize money for contests etc.

    This is just a heads up and also a request for your reactions to this, any objections to adding Google Adsense? Below is an image which shows where it will be added, and as you can see its unobtrusive and doesn't get in the way of the designs. Obviously they (the adverts) will be relevant targeted ads, this is just a quick example by me using a full print screen and a quick adsense block... click the image to enlarge.

    Open Designs With Adsense Preview

    edit: fixed the link for the full size image
    • CommentAuthorrobbie
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    I think it's a good idea, like you said to raise money, and some people will find some sites they have been looking for.

    So, no objections from my side, keep up the good work.
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      CommentAuthorjelontok
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    that's a great idea. i think text-link-ads can also be an alternative.
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      CommentAuthorOutsider
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    Sounds good to me. The bills need to be paid somehow. bigsmile
    • CommentAuthorCalitoe
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007 edited by Calitoe on the 30th April 2007 at 14:54:10 EDT
     
    I also think that Text-link-ads is a good option because they pay you at the end of each month regardless of the amount you have earned. For AdSense you have to wait until you reach 100$, even though I'm pretty sure this site can easily reach that amount of money in not so much time.

    I hate ads, but money gives the easiest and most effective support, so go ahead :D
    • CommentAuthorrefueled
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    Sounds great. I hope the three admins will take a percentage for all the work they have put into this community.
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    I think that adsense and TLA are both great ways to generate revenue, although most people prefer TLA over adsense.

    Anyone who has strong negative opinions regarding adverts will just use adblock , so they won't see them anyways.
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      CommentAuthorjanpd24
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    I think it's a good idea. The ads won't get in the way of anyone. The whole concept of this community is great, but the bills still need to be paid!
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    I agree that there's more money to be made through TLA than Adsense.
    I know adsense's colors and stuff can be changed, but can TLA's?
    if so, I think we should go w/ TLA. Even though they're a bit slower when it comes to set up compared to Adsense.
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      CommentAuthorChristopher
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007 edited by Christopher on the 30th April 2007 at 17:11:55 EDT
     
    Well there's nothing stopping us from running both anyway. By the way, going by the estimates provided by the Google Adsense advisor (for lack of a better word, not sure what they're officially called) we can easily make more from Adsense than TLA. A lot of you aren't used to Adsense on highly populated sites so I think, in my opinion, that some of you don't realise just how much you can earn from running Adsense, and prefer the "easy" upfront text link ads way of money.
    • CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    Who is going to look after the money and how do you intend to account for it?
    • CommentAuthorSunRise
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    Since there's no OD owner (right?) any money raised by ads would help us as members since the money would help us do more things as a community. Its the same thing as if a school does a fund-raiser or the government raises the taxes, except that ads don't cost us any money and they shouldn't be a problem.

    As long as the money stays with the community this sounds great!bakie

    Happy that people are back again (where were you guys?),
    SunRise
    • CommentAuthorrefueled
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007 edited by refueled on the 30th April 2007 at 18:23:22 EDT
     
    edit- removed my original statement. decided it wasnt as funny as I thought.
    • CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    bigsmile I'm not sure that is a job I would want even if I was paid to do it!
    • CommentAuthorrefueled
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    @ainslie: treasurer? yeah I know. sort of why I removed my original statement. bigsmile
    • CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007
     
    That's the problem. Where do you put the money, who looks after it and how do you show the community where it has gone?
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      CommentAuthorLobsterMan
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2007 edited by Sean on the 04th October 2007 at 17:10:35 EDT
     
    The 3 admins (Sean, Christopher and Myself) will all have full access to the adsense account. We will report to wider board and the community.
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2007
     
    I have absolutely no objection to this site using Adsense.
    Given the amount of traffic this site probably gets, it can only help. Running a site like this costs big money.
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    This sounds great. I would suggest that a financial "report" be published twice a year, just to keep the members informed.
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    I have no problem with you putting adsense on your site. I also think that it's no one's business what the financial side of this site is, except the owner of the site, and anyone they choose to give that information to. As far as I know, that's LobsterMan, and it should be his prerogative (not his duty) to share that info at will.
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    That may have come off as rude. I just mean to say that I don't think the finances are any of our (the regular users/members) business. If he chooses to share that info, great.
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2007
     
    i don't think it should be the duty of anyone to post financial information, it's just that i think people would be more willing to donate if they could look at a report or something and see where it is their money would be going.
    • CommentAuthorrefueled
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2007 edited by refueled on the 01st May 2007 at 18:11:25 EDT
     
    I agree (with aaroncampbell), members really dont need to know how much money OD makes off of Adsense or TLA, if TLA is ever used.
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      CommentAuthorNeuen
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2007
     
    I am going to have to say that Adsense is the way to go for OpenDesigns. OpenDesigns has grown in to an extreamly high traffic site, new people find this site everyday and the great thing is they keep coming back. TLA is a great program for those who want to start out advertising, but not have to worry about the whole "am I getting enough clicks" dealio. Once a site hits so much traffic then it is time for it to go on the Payper click deal, or sign on with a large advertising company that can promise a large sum of money for ad placement. The reason being is that when you are with a company like TLA you have what is called a earnings cap: you can only make so much money a month. On the other hand with Adsense we have the potential to make more than what that cap would be.
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      CommentAuthoryugnats
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2007
     
    i personally don't mind the idea of adsense, etc but i'm curious about this statement from karen to be honest:

    Posted By: arwen54Running a site like this costs big money.

    i thought the new sponsorship deal was supposed to solve operating costs so i'm assuming she means contests, etc?

    if one of the admins feels more comfortable emailing me about this go for it.


    Posted By: JeremyDi don't think it should be the duty of anyone to post financial information, it's just that i think people would be more willing to donate if they could look at a report or something and see where it is their money would be going.


    i also personally don't think its required to post the finances but as a moderator of this site i feel at least the mods should be privy to the financial information.
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    My idea about the report was strictly for the purpose of keeping the members informed. Not that I don't trust the admins, they're great, but it would keep them accountable to someone. This might help eliminate problems that caused the creation of this community. I hope that you can see my perspective. bakie
    • CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2007 edited by Sean on the 27th June 2008 at 01:11:06 EDT
     
    I'm not calling into question the honesty of the admins, but this community was launched as an open community so that it belongs to the community.

    Unless something has changed, it doesn't belong to LobsterMan, Christopher or Sean, it belongs to each end every one of us. Therefore each and everyone of us has a right to know what is happening.
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2007
     
    I liked it when Sean would just post the running total in the 'Donations' thread. That worked well. Once the ads are at full steam ahead, we can hopefully start up regular contests.
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      CommentAuthorSean
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2007
     
    The idea behind adsense revenue would be to have contest prize money.

    The hosting is being donated, so we are covered there.

    As gnome mentioned, I or Christopher or Joe could post monthly or semi annual reports on what the site is earning... shoot... it will be easy to know once we post a contest with prize money attached to it :)
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    It's indeed a good idea :)
    • CommentAuthorORMatt
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2007
     
    OpenReaction would also be willing to donate some prize money in exchange for some sales of our services. If the admins would contact me we can discuss this as an option.

    bigsmile
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    Great Idea cool
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    Does OpenReaction sell lunix hosting with cpanel ? If yes, I can consider signing up with an account if opendesigns.org recommends :)
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      CommentAuthorkirby145
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2007
     
    Actually, did you consider the thing where people bid to have advertisements on your site per day? People would bid a lot to have their small banner on your site.
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      CommentAuthoryugnats
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2007 edited by Sean on the 27th June 2008 at 01:11:20 EDT
     
    Posted By: seanI or Christopher or Joe could post monthly or semi annual reports on what the site is earning...


    any idea when this could can happen? i'm curious about the adsense revenue and what a site of this size makes :)
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      CommentAuthorSean
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2007 edited by Sean on the 13th June 2007 at 21:53:29 EDT
     
    Hey yugnats. As of my comment, to date adsense has generated $201.92 USD.

    We're letting it build up so we can have a contest with a big cash prize.

    I would have posted sooner, but I wanted it to at least reach $200.00 USD which it finally did as of last night.

    I will do another posting in approximately two weeks to see how much more it's gone up.

    See this post for more detailed information.
    • CommentAuthorwebdesignersireland
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2007 edited by Christopher on the 14th June 2007 at 13:14:42 EDT
     
    Hi Christopher!
    If you want to receive more clicks on your Google AdSense, better go for Search engine optimization of your site. If your site performs well in search engine result pages, then obviously your organic traffic will increase and thus will increase your clicks on Google Ads.

    For more info regarding search engine friendly web designing, contact leading Web Designers Ireland.

    /* edited by Christopher: added rel="nofollow" to the link as it seems like general spam ;) */
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2007
     
    ummm...webdesignerireland...Christopher is a web designer so I doubt he would need your services, especially since you decided to spam this post angry
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    Isn't it ironic how the forms on the site which is linked to in the spam post above, have captcha's to help lower the amount of spam they'd receive through them. You'd have thought they'd have the decency not to go around spamming other sites if they don't appreciate it themselves...
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2007 edited by gnome on the 14th June 2007 at 17:00:03 EDT
     
    This site has better SEO than most. It is also notable that the spam site still uses tables.
    • CommentAuthorrishil
    • CommentTimeJun 20th 2007
     
    I think due to the rate of traffic I suspect this site has, adsense banners would generate much more revenue - as its on impressions, not clicks - the only trade off there is some banners can be BUTT UGLY...
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    Christopher, how do the numbers look now ? I am also curious about the Kontera numbers. I am considering to use Kontera content link ads on one of my websites as well...
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      CommentAuthorSean
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2007
     
    I'll have a new Kontera report at the end of the month. I'll also report on Google adsense as well.
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      CommentAuthoryugnats
    • CommentTimeOct 3rd 2007
     
    Posted By: SeanI'll have a new Kontera report at the end of the month. I'll also report on Google adsense as well.


    any idea when this will be posted?
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      CommentAuthorSean
    • CommentTimeOct 3rd 2007 edited by Sean on the 03rd October 2007 at 16:49:23 EDT
     
    Soon as Kontera finishes the maintenance, I can get into the account and pull the latest reports.

    It seems they are doing a lot of system upgrades since they received a big push in Venture Capitol funding.

    As of this comment, Google Adsense has earned $642.27 USD.
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      CommentAuthoryugnats
    • CommentTimeOct 4th 2007
     
    thanks, it'll be interesting to see the kontera numbers (even though i hate it, lol) - so when is there going to be a contest to spend some of this cash wink
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      CommentAuthorSean
    • CommentTimeOct 4th 2007
     
    There is actually a contest in the works. Christopher I believe is working up the specific text/details for a post.
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    Yup, and it's quite an exciting (and large) contest as well!
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    Shweet! I'll see if I can cram something into my crazy schedule. Hopefully you have a great concept in mind.

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