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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2007
     
    I know i JUST posted an article here the other day, but I've got another one. (let me know if they get annoying). feedback would be nice (either here or as a comment on the article) :)

    http://zilladesigns.net/site/archives/dreamweaver-good-or-bad/

    thanks bakie
    • CommentAuthorzvineyard
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2007 edited by zvineyard on the 13th February 2007 at 19:49:45 EST
     
    I've used Dreamweaver for a long time. If you can build the site, and it make it work, it seems petty to keep talking about whether Dreamweaver is good or bad. The article linked above is pretty cool, though.

    bigsmile
    • CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    For me Dreamweaver was the next step after frontpage when I made my first website long time ago. But when I learned CSS and PHP, I removed Dreamweaver of my pc and since this day I use notepad++ to make all my websites / designs.

    So for me Dreamweaver was good to learn html.
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    I tried Dreamweaver once...trial version...I didn't like it. Also, there are so many quality editors out there such as Notepad++, HTML Kit, etc...that I just couldn't justify the high price of DW.
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    well yeah i wouldn't pay for DW >>
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      CommentAuthorgraystatic
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    Yeah DW is pretty nice, but I find it has a hard time handiling templates properly that it didn't make. Because I have someone who took forever to change templates because I had to find one that he could edit in DW.
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      CommentAuthorOutsider
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    For me, I use DreamWeaver for these reasons:

    Tabbed interface.
    Great search and replace feature that spans across multiple web pages.
    Color codes many types of code (html, css, javascript, php, xml, etc.)
    Auto closing tags when you type "</".
    Even though it's bit me in the ass, the FTP file manager makes working on sites a breeze.


    Advanced CSS techniques look awful in Design view. Therefore Design view is practically useless.
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007 edited by bakercad on the 14th February 2007 at 07:04:33 EST
     
    The main reasons I keep using Dreamweaver instead of switching to another editor:
    1. "organizational" features which makes it extremely easy to switch between different web projects
    2. FTP capabilities
    3. Syntax highlighting (though most editors have this)
    4. For PHP purposes: right click and there is a drop down list of the functions in the the current PHP file. (this is VERY handy).

    oh ya....and the things Outsider mentioned above bakie
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      CommentAuthorOutsider
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    I got it at a steep discount or else I wouldn't purchase it, there are other great tools on the Mac like BBedit or HyperEdit.
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    Try KompoZer, Nvu's unofficial bug-fix release, 'cause it's no more developed. Then you don't need DW anymore. Too expensive!

    For hardcoding use software that Karen suggested.
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    my thoughts about MS , Macromedia , and Adobe: they are greedy, in my opinion! so I (being the rebel that I am) refuse to purchase their software at their outrageous prices...of course my OS is MS XP PRO Media Center, but that came pre-installed with my new computer. I use OpenOffice intead of MS office and I use other less expensive or free software to code or create graphics. They get the job done, and since I work for myself, no one cares what software I use, thank goodness.wink
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    I agree with you about MS and Adobe (Macromedia is owned by Adobe now) being greedy....but I must admit, some of the software that comes from them is top notch, though expensive. The expensive of programs like PhotoShop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, the MS Office Suite....etc, is unreal. You'd think that with the quality of the free replacements out there, their prices would come down.

    BTW, I use OpenOffice too.
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    wow...I didn't know Mocromedia is owned by Adobe...that's how much I really care...bigsmile

    OpenOffice is great and you can still work with MS documents of any kind and save your work in MS format too...kudos to JavaSun for creating a fantastic suite of productivity tools!

    as a lot of you know I use PhotoImpact as my graphics editor of choice. I can open and work with almost any image file format, including .psd and most PhotoShop plugins work with it. It has so many built-in filters and when you buy it you also get 3 other software suites with it: Ulead Gif Animator, Ulead Photo Album, and Ulead Cool 360. So for 1/6th of the price of PhotoShop, PhotoImpact is worth every pennywink I have been using PhotoImpact since version 4 and I just recently purchased version 12.
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      CommentAuthorOutsider
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    Anyone ever use CSSEdit on the Mac? I just downloaded it and it is GREAT. It's shareware and only $29 but feature wise, for strictly CSS editing, it is so clean and versatile.
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      CommentAuthorOutsider
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    I agree about the insane costs of MS and Adobe applications, one of the reasons I use iWork for word processing and presentations, but I don't think I could get by without Photoshop or Illustrator. In my mind they are top notch and there really isn't any competition out there for them, especially Illustrator. If I had to give up Dreamweaver, I could in a heartbeat.
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    There is always free competition, however, some of it can take a bit of learning to get used to, like GIMP, or Blender.
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      CommentAuthorjanpd24
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    Posted By: arwen54my thoughts about MS , Macromedia , and Adobe: they are greedy, in my opinion! so I (being the rebel that I am) refuse to purchase their software at their outrageous prices...of course my OS is MS XP PRO Media Center, but that came pre-installed with my new computer. I use OpenOffice intead of MS office and I use other less expensive or free software to code or create graphics. They get the job done, and since I work for myself, no one cares what software I use, thank goodness.


    I agree. I too use Open Office. For graphics I am stuck with a very old edition of PaintShop Pro I got with a copy of PC Format some years ago, and I use Gimp for whatever PSP can't handle.

    Of course, I live in India, where most people don't even know you are supposed to pay for software, and I could get a copy of Photoshop for under $10! But I have resisted the temptation to pirate till date, and hope I never resort to that! bakie
    • CommentAuthorbofester
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    I used Dreamweaver for a long time until I fell in love with Eclipse. The onyl reason I boot Dreamweaver occaisionally is for Find/Replace throughout many folders/files.

    I highly highly recommend EasyEclipse as a free solution.

    http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/lamp.html

    Loading it up with a few free plugins... specifically Aptana:
    http://www.aptana.com/
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2007
     
    i installed aptana and it took over my CSS files. now when i try to open CSS files in dreamweaver, it opens them in aptana. im too lazy to uninstalled :|

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