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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    So I'm starting work on a new website and I'll be setting up some google adsense ads on the site. I was wondering if its possible to make much of an income off of the ads?
    • CommentAuthorDeanStev
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007 edited by DeanStev on the 29th January 2007 at 04:46:12 EST
     
    yes, its possible - i've seen successful examples - it takes a lot of work, and the site needs a lot of users.
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    post fresh quality content at least 3 times a day, get a lot of users involved and moving around your site, then work out the best places to use adsense without it being so obvious. it requires a lot of work but it can be done.
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007 edited by JeremyD on the 29th January 2007 at 04:54:05 EST
     
    well the site is probably going to get updated at least once a day once the site gets going.

    Can the ads be styled to match the site's look?
    • CommentAuthorDeanStev
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    To an extent, yes.
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    yeah but you can't place images near the ads to disguise them these days, thats quite annoying as it was a nice trick to increase clicks...
    • CommentAuthorAndreas
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    AdSense can definitely generate money. But the entire concept is based on the idea that you have to send your site visitors away through the ad links - and I don't really like that. The site visitors usually don't like it either, since nobody visits a site with the intention to click AdSense links...

    I prefer fixed-price ads from Text-Link-Ads.com over AdSense at all times, and since it works perfectly for me I can recommend it warmly. Besides, TLA pays several times better than AdSense ever did for my site. I can almost make a living from the the 8 sponsored links on my site. And the best thing: The sponsored links are only showed on my frontpage - so I can keep the rest of my site free from annoying ads.
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007 edited by JeremyD on the 29th January 2007 at 06:00:19 EST
     
    ooo thanks, Andreas.

    I'm testing it out on my personal site, which uses wordpres, but I'm wondering how i make it so the text links only appear on my home page?

    nevermind. My personal site doesn't even meet the minimum traffic requirement cry
    • CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    @JeremyD, keep releasing the templates and doing what you are doing and you'll get there in the end. bakie
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      CommentAuthorjanpd24
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    Posted By: JeremyDthe minimum traffic requirement

    Is there a minimum traffic requirement? I didn't find any such thing when I signed up.
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      CommentAuthormdizzle
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    You do have to submit your site to get it approved...
    maybe thats when you get the banhammer.
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      CommentAuthorbcwood
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    Posted By: janpd24Is there a minimum traffic requirement?


    I don't think the specifically state what your traffic has to be, but as mdizzle said, when you submit your site they check your traffic rating, and if it's not high enough you get rejected.
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    Also if you have a page rank of 0 your likely to be rejected, shallow I know, but a decent pagerank means a quality backlink (e.g. PR5 on Attackr blogroll!) which, for example, if you take Andreas's site being a PR8 would be a very tasty backlink to have ;)
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007 edited by JeremyD on the 29th January 2007 at 13:02:49 EST
     
    my site is tasty. it tastes like bakie. you'd think they'd wnat a bakie flavored site bakie
    • CommentAuthorkoloa
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    oic, so before you request for adsense, one must already be indexed by google. you cant signup with a freashly launched large site with lots of good content.
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    I know I haven't mentioned what exactly the new site I'm goign to be putting all of the adsense/text ads on to is, but I'm close to purchasing some hosting and getting the new project started.

    I'll reveal the project here sometime in February. :)
    • CommentAuthorSaad
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    oooh, exciting! me too, i will be releasing it in the coming days!
    new projects are always fun, plus i love looking at members of od.org's sites.

    i also got rejected from TLA (my old site) because it didnt have enough pagerank, but i had a considerable amount of traffic for a new site
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      CommentAuthorDENiAL
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    I too am working on launching a new site. :) Dang, what would happen if we all got together and built a site? Ohhh.. yeah, we would have opendesigns.org... hehehehe...

    bakie

    I have never used ads, of course, I have also never made a living from a site, only designing them. I might put some on the new launch.. We shall see, though I was thinking more Amazon, but you would understand that more when I launch the site.. devil
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      CommentAuthoreurogrande
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007 edited by eurogrande on the 29th January 2007 at 20:39:32 EST
     
    I signed up for Google adsense without having any traffic, PR was 0(and I still don't have any traffic wink . ) and I got approved. I made already $6.68 in 5 months and I think I am on the way to become a millionaire... bigsmile
    Just sign up (I bet you will not be rejected) and try it out; you have nothing to lose.
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      CommentAuthorjanpd24
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2007
     
    I've never made money directly off a site either, but am toying with the idea now. I know I'll have to tweak the site somewhat for that. bakie
    • CommentAuthorDraicone
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    There are all sorts of Adsense tricks you can use to actually make a living from Adsense. The best one is building a decent site. The easiest one is talking about paid web hosting. In the end, though, unless you hire a real Adsense consultant you can't optimize your site for revenue, optimize it for humans and (depending on the site) the money will come.
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    Posted By: eurograndeI signed up for Google adsense without having any traffic, PR was 0(and I still don't have any traffic" alt="wink" src="http:///forum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/wink.gif">. ) and I got approved. I made already $6.68 in 5 months and I think I am on the way to become a millionaire..." alt="bigsmile" src="http:///forum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/bigsmile.gif">
    Just sign up (I bet you will not be rejected) and try it out; you have nothing to lose.


    when you're rich and famous, promise me you wont forget us all. :)
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      CommentAuthoreurogrande
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     

    when you're rich and famous, promise me you wont forget us all. :)

    I promise
    • CommentAuthorSaad
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    ive made like 87 dollars with adsense
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    I just sent in the application for adsense for my personal site to test it out. Just waiting for them to approve it now.
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      CommentAuthoreurogrande
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    Posted By: needvertive made like 87 dollars with adsense


    needvert,
    What kind of content do you have on your site?

    I read that you can make a lot of money with tavel stuff. Just look at the guy who owns seatguru.com; he makes about a $100,000 a year with adsense.
    • CommentAuthorkoloa
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    im sure seatguru make WAY more than that. ive been folowing adsense news since the summer. a site like plentyoffish is making the owner around 30k a month or more.
    • CommentAuthorAndreas
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    I would still choose TLA over AdSense at all times, since the basic idea with AdSense is that you have to make your site visitors leave your site or you will not make any money at all - while TLA uses the value of keeping your visitors on your own site!

    Not to forget, Google still owes me more than $500 after closing my AdSense account - claiming that I had clicked my own links in a situation where I could easily prove that I had not. I had the perfect evidence and Google could not possibly prove themselves right, but they still claimed that they were right and I was wrong. That is the only time I have been really angry at Google...

    Now, I'm happy that I left AdSense and discovered TLA instead. As said, I have 8 small and well-styled text link ads on my frontpage, and those 8 links pay much better than AdSense ever did for me. I don't think anyone can earn as much as $100.000 per year from TLA, but I still recommend it strongly.

    The fact that TLA makes the payments directly after each advertising month has ended makes them even better. AdSense waited 1,5 month before sending the payments, TLA usually pays after two days... :)
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    I had a similar experience to Andreas. I had a site, put Adsense on it (making nearly nothing, I was still developing it), and they claimed I clicked my own links. Then they kept the $10 or $20 that I should have got. They don't want to see evidence, and they won't show you any. It's their "right" to close the account at any time.
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      CommentAuthormdizzle
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    I also had an accounts with about $22, but it suddenly dropped back to a big fat 0...

    TLA it is...

    @Andreas: Any special link you want me to click for being referred?
    • CommentAuthorAndreas
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    mdizzle: Thanks for the kindness! If you sign up through this affiliate url:

    http://www.text-link-ads.com/?ref=12637

    ...I will get a $25 bonus on the next paycheck and your name will be listed on my referral list. :)

    Anyone who prefer to sign up without giving me (or anyone else) free money can use the same address but without the referral ID:

    http://www.text-link-ads.com/
    • CommentAuthorAndreas
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007 edited by Andreas on the 30th January 2007 at 18:16:43 EST
     
    If anyone have any specific questions about TLA, just send me an e-mail and I'll share some hints and tips on installation and link placement...
    • CommentAuthorSaad
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    @eurogrande, it was a sports training site. i sold it however, hopefully the new owner can capitalize on the great traffic it had.

    @andreas, can you give us a general figure of how much you make with TLA? if that is too personal, or a rude question, you dont have to respond.

    i personally never click on adsense ads, so i wonder why others would too
    • CommentAuthorAndreas
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    needvert: Sure, it is not too personal, it is a number that you can figure out from the TLA site as well. Each of the 8 TLA link slots on my frontpage is currently sold for $225 per month. TLA keeps 50% of the sales amount, and I get the other 50%, which means that I could earn a maximum $900 per month from my TLA ads.

    However, several of the link slots were purchased for a long time ahead while the link price was lower (TLA sets all prices by themselves based on site popularity - see their link calculator), so the actual earnings is lower - currently $550 per month. To that, I have a few referrals every month, giving a bonus of $25 each. TLA also offers a service called Feedvertising that makes it possible to place sponsored links in the feeds - but I don't use that service right now.

    Personally, I have Adblock:ed out all AdSense ads since two years back, so I never see them anywhere. And I honestly don't miss them either.
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    hmmm...this is interesting...I must try TLA
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      CommentAuthorjanpd24
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2007
     
    I'm coming around to that idea as well...
    • CommentAuthorSaad
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    with the upcoming launch of dazed media, i will try and get some pr, so i can again sign up for TLA.

    that is almost 12,000 assuming you get the new links for the full price!
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      CommentAuthorNeuen
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    I don't know how many people already know this, but Google updated their PR system the other day, so you might want to check your PR. I went from 0 to 5 :)
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      CommentAuthorwebmasterneo
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007 edited by webmasterneo on the 31st January 2007 at 06:41:22 EST
     
    Posted By: EthanNeuenI don't know how many people already know this, but Google updated their PR system the other day, so you might want to check your PR. I went from 0 to 5 :)


    I went from 4 to 0 cry
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    woohoo! I went from a 5 to a 6...awesome wink
    • CommentAuthorSaad
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    my old site went from 0 to 4!! too bad i sold it

    @ethan: what kind of places did you list your site to get the pr?
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    oh and Ethan, congrats!clap
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      CommentAuthorLobsterMan
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    ThemesPress.com went form 0 to 5, and so did w3lift.com smilesmilesmile
    • CommentAuthorAndreas
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    No change in the PR for my own site, but another site I've built (http://jokkmokk.biz/) now has a PR7. How often are these updates made?
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      CommentAuthorNeuen
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    @Andreas: Google doesn't have a regular update calander, but if you look at the patterns it usually happens about every 3 1/2 - 4 months.
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      CommentAuthorDENiAL
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    No change for me either. 5-5...
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    @Lobsterman and Andreas...congrats!
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      CommentAuthorbcwood
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    My personal site/blog went from a 0 to a 4, not bad for only being around a few months...
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      CommentAuthorjanpd24
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2007
     
    I was kind of shocked to find my pagerank to be 5! I thought it'd be closer to... um... 0! tongue
    • CommentAuthorDeanStev
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2007 edited by DeanStev on the 01st February 2007 at 03:33:46 EST
     
    W00t! Etomite's pagerank is now 7, as well as my new website, etohost (it's only recently got content on, although I have owned the domain for a while)
    My personal blog is still 0 cry

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