Site Specific: [Sticky] Site Rules & Design Submission Guidelines (Last Updated: 25 May 2008)
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CommentAuthorJJenZz
- CommentTimeMay 25th 2008 edited by JJenZz on the 25th May 2008 at 12:14:02 EDT
Posted By: perthmetro I see professional designers spit out lots of very ordinary blog designs purely to use OD as a means to show sponsored links and be seen.
Those are not the ones doing this for a living. Those are the ones doing this for hits to their site. There's a difference.Posted By: perthmetro
Nice designs Jen. To be honest until you showed me them I didn't realise you were that capable... can you see my point now why it's good for you and your $$ to show us what your 'capable' of?
Thanks
but I don't have to show what I am capable of here in order to get paid work. What I submit at the moment brings in work already.
What I am saying sounds so selfish, but it's not. Time means money for freelancers and the more time they spend making templates for this site for free, the more it damages their income.
We like to help the community and we do, but to expect us to spend hours on end doing this stuff for nothing is just ridiculous. I want to help, but if I do I can only afford to do so if I get something in return. I am happy with just the hits back to my site and downloaders keeping my link but obviously some freelancers feel they need more than that, which i think is fair enough.Posted By: perthmetroHmmm, not so appealing when the shoe's on the other foot hey!
How is the shoe on the other foot there? lol that is ridiculous. We do not charge you to use templates that contain sponsored links, in fact we do not charge you at all!Posted By: gnomeYou are ODT? now that clears up a lot of confusion for me (I still read bits and pieces of the forum at OWD)
Haha yup :PPosted By: perthmetroLet those who don't want to submit designs without SL find another place. If there is no other place and they go hungry then that's not our problem. We are not here to pay for their food.
Hmm, maybe I'll create that 'other place' but without these crappy rules
Posted By: gnome Christopher: I am hoping that no one will take issue with that proposal, so that we can move forward.
I'll accept whatever decision is made on this, because as I have said before... I don't use sponsored links but that doesn't mean I think that decision would be right. *shrug*
I have added my vote (to this unfair poll) anyways...
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CommentAuthorJJenZz
- CommentTimeMay 25th 2008 edited by JJenZz on the 25th May 2008 at 12:23:48 EDT
perthmetro: you mustn't forget that submitting something amazing to a free site only makes people assume they can buy something unique and just as good from you, for next to nothing. That is not the case and not the impression I ever want to give. If clients want something better they have to be prepared to pay the cash and when I create stuff that I put more effort into, it shows it is worth the money because it is better than the stuff I offer free.
I mean, if someone offered something free and then charged me for something that was the same quality, I would be livid.
But I digress.... again
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CommentAuthoryugnats
- CommentTimeMay 25th 2008
i voted yes because personally i think sponsored links should be allowed as long as they were limited (maybe one or 2) and they could be completely removed by the downloader. maybe forcing a public domain license on a template that uses sponsored links or something to that affect might even work?? i know i love the higher quality templates but hate the CC license attached to most of them.
i'm a developer who usually only downloads templates to hack apart for apps and for learning but i can certainly see the designers points of view as well. JJenZz is right about the higher quality templates and i for one would hate to see them go but i dont want OD to turn into a link farm either. its a tough call and someone is going to be upset but its better we get this out of the way now... -
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- CommentAuthorTrin
- CommentTimeMay 25th 2008
Posted By: JJenZzI mean, if someone offered something free and then charged me for something that was the same quality, I would be livid.
There is a difference between a wonderful free template that a couple of thousand websites are using, and a one-of-a-kind template of the same quality, custom designed for a client. -
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