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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    every outbound link is a vote from one page for another, which saps the search engine rankings of OD to boost the linked sites.
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    @Ainsle - my bad. I think I am just going cross-eyed. I do know that when I did a search for a wood based design here at OD, the results were over 50% from freecsstemplates and/or some variant on that name. Maybe I got the very similar names confused ... but I do find it hard to believe one person is so creative and so dedicated as to crank out one, two, or more templates a day ... but hey, if its one person .. I bow to their "work ethic" ;)
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      CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    @fernbap: I'd rather see OD linking to those sites than some of the sponsored links that are being used.

    @XSQueen: We need to be careful and only act when there is hard evidence of foul play but I agree with you that they are unbelievably productive for 1 individual. They are also very quiet in the forum as they have so far not posted 1 message as far as I can see.
    • CommentAuthorfernbap
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008 edited by fernbap on the 22nd May 2008 at 18:06:02 EDT
     
    yea, but i think you are missing the point. Any open source community should (by definition) support Open source, and one of the ways to do it is supporting:

    - firefox
    - Open Office
    - Linux

    And, specially for a design community:

    - Gimp
    - Inkscape

    But hey, that's just my opinion :P

    @XSQueen: of course they are more than 1 individual. So, what is their CC license protecting? The template creators or a comercial website? Or is it just a farse?
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      CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    I don't think many people would object to the odd link to open source projects or other good causes. These are what I would call legitimate links. After all what are links for if not to show your support for something.

    Obviously links that are put there for money in all probability will not be causes that we would support as a community.

    as for "freecsstemplates" while there seems to be far too many templates for 1 individual, I can't see anything wrong with the templates themselves. (bear in mind I haven't checked each one only a small sample).
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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    As far as polling goes I think it should be up to just the mods and admins. They can vote within a a few days (publically here for all to see) and we can act on that decision.

    At the end of the day the admins are here do act and do something and if they can't or won't then let those admins and mods who are active step up and take control.

    @ Chris and Joe, How about handing over your roles to to a mod here in the interim, and step down. You're long absences on many topics are not good for this site.

    @ Sean, Just make a decision. You're trying your best but if the others are playing games then do your own thing, and if the other 2 try to object i think they'll have a hard time justifying it - I for one will support you.

    @ the mods, contact Chris and Joe and offer to take over their roles and/or voice you objection.

    Pete
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008 edited by gnome on the 22nd May 2008 at 22:08:14 EDT
     
    Im not against sponsored links in templates, as long as we get the rel="nofollow" added to links in design previews here to prevent anyone from selling our rankings with such links. I also think that while the other issue was one of licensing, this is one of sponsorship and censoring.

    I don't think that links in templates should be restricted. Being able to place sponsored links in templates has helped many designers put food on the table in times of great need need, as well as being a source of quick cash to monetize templates. As long as they won't affect our rank, the users can remove them, and they are not pornography-related, I have nothing against it. Thoughts?
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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2008
     
    How about race related? religious related? political related?

    What do we define as 'Porn'?

    it's too ambiguous, This site isn't for designers making money from this site by way of their links, it's about free, freedom and open source.

    If designers are so desperate for bread on the table and they rely on OD to feed them then what service are we providing here? A link soup kitchen for mal nourished designers?

    If we allow these type of links we will be, forever and a day, be questioning/arguing these type of links.

    Let them link to the designers website and let the designers website fill themselves up with links, not 'our' site.
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