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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2008
     
    My next template is a bit different, but I hear a lot of people saying they like innovation over pretty colors. Anyway, I like to get some feedback while they're still works in progress so here's a preview of Splashtastic 2.0. I've got it in two styles:



    They are not nearly fully styled right now (especially vintage). But what do you think? Horizontal scrolling may not be hugely popular, but I haven't seen a template here, so I thought I'd try it out.
    • CommentAuthorfernbap
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2008
     
    The main problem with horizontal scrolling is if the user is NOT using 1024 resolution. Try it ;)
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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2008
     
    True, it breaks down at smaller sizes, but it upgrades well to bigger sizes. On my site (which is geared more toward high-tech folks, granted) in the last month 99% of my traffic has been 1024 or higher. I could probably tweak a few things to make it scaled down a little bit more, but I've decided not to spend too much time worrying about 800x600.
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    I got kind of confused when I first clicked a link. The text was standing on the left and the mwnu on the right. Then I realized it took me to the contents of the page I selected and not the page. So the menu remained hidden in the left part of the screen and I was seeing the menu of the next page together with a wrap of the next page's content. That's really confusing especially among unexperienced users. Try to let the page have the same layout after clicking a link, i.e. the menu remains in the same place. Good luck with the templates.
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2008
     
    it looks great, Brad. It will be neat to see how this design concept pans out.
    • CommentAuthorMike Weiss
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2008
     
    Could you set the absolute so you don't have to repeat it in the code?
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2008 edited by gnome on the 15th July 2008 at 23:23:00 EDT
     
    If the menu were absolutely positioned, (see andreas07 for a great cross-browser example), it could look a bit sharper, with just content in that middle bar.
    • CommentAuthorbluecafe
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008 edited by bluecafe on the 16th July 2008 at 02:39:08 EDT
     
    I think horizontal webpages can be very interesting and I like the design (the vintage more than the first one which I find a bit too dark).

    The only thing that bothers me with this design is that the menu repeats itself if scrolling horizontally. Here are some examples of horizontal webpages and how they managed navigation:
    http://www.thehorizontalway.com/
    • CommentAuthorzanzibar
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    Great idea, I'm sure the templates will be popular.

    The horizontal way site made me sea sick....confused
    • CommentAuthorRob
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    Apologies if this comes across as overly critical at all I am intending to be constructive, but in all honesty I think you're wasting your time.

    I here what you're saying about the majority of your users being on 1024, although I disagree about you not worrying about it and see it as something very important to consider, but beyond that you've got the whole problem of people viewing it in windows, I never have Firefox full screen, its always in a window of a different shape or size and i'm sure alot of people work the same way and the way in which the site is coded means it will always break unless its the exact dimensions that you're designing it with and that's just unacceptable from a userability point of view.

    I like the idea of a sideways scroll if you can make it work and i've seen a few good incarnations of it recently, but you've got to be very careful if you are going to do it as at the moment these designs fail dramatically.
    • CommentAuthorcthelight
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    # Glass Is the design I would use.
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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    @rob - No worries. This thing is in very early stages so I'm open to all criticism, even the extremely "constructive" And I agree with you that I can do some more scaling so it will work more consistently in all browsers.

    I also find myself getting disoriented as I go from one section to another. Moving the nav into the absolutely positioned top part might be a good idea, I'll try that out.

    Thanks everyone.
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      CommentAuthorNickyD
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2008
     
    I like both of them Brad. One thing I notice about your recent templates are the beautiful colors. Looking forward to downloading them.
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     
    @Brad .. beautiful colors! I know you've said you don't worry about old resolutions, but this also unfortunately breaks down (e-me if you want a screenshot) on i.e.6 .. which is yes, a dinasaur, but those of us in corporate offices with locked down computers who cannot upgrade without miles of paperwork, are stuck on i.e. 6 and will probably be on it for another year or so .. and thats 100000 from the company I work for ALONE!! Just something to consider ..
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     
    Brad: I have IE 6 installed, so if you want me to test these out once you get closer to production, just give me a shout. There are some pretty neat online services for that too.
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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     
    Yeah I typically use BrowserShots for that. And I can see what you mean XS. Pretty sure I know what it is though. IE6 doesn't deal well with min-width. Surprise, surprise.
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      CommentAuthorsdkester
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2008
     
    Slightly OT, but the "IE6 doesn't like min-width" really bit me just yesterday. Grrr!! I was really surprised, it is (to me) such a logical CSS property.
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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    Thanks for all the feedback.

    Maybe something more like this?
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008 edited by wfiedler on the 18th July 2008 at 03:24:29 EDT
     
    Your links/anchors are wrong. But looks good!
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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    Thanks wolfram. I've discovered an interesting/new problem with the way anchors work here.

    When you click on a link that is to the right of your current position, it moves to the anchor on the right hand side of the page. When you click on a link that is to the left of your current position, it places the anchor on the left.

    Anyone with any ideas on how to fix this?
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    you could make each division one full screen-width (width: 100%;), and link to those, so that regardless of position, it shows the whole thing on screen.
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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
     
    Posted By: gnomeyou could make each division one full screen-width (width: 100%;), and link to those, so that regardless of position, it shows the whole thing on screen.
    Well the problem with that is to get the horizontal scrolling I have to define a massive width in the parent element, so any child elements inherit that width and percentages are of that set amount.

    I know you can obtain a user's resolution with javascript, any way to do that with CSS?
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    http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5512/screenshotxn8.jpg
    Here's a screenshot on 1680x1050 vista home premium firefox 3.
    hope it helps.. somehow..
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    mine looks the same I have a 1680*1050 also
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    could you set body to like 100% and then do and averflow: scroll or something. maybey thats what your doing. idk
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeJul 19th 2008
     
    Brad, I think your template won't work properly with higher resolutions than 1024 x 768. But it's a challenge. Let me think about it wink...
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    Interesting style, I never saw Horizontal Scrolling websites before...is this template available for download now ?
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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
     
    @cmg - Not yet. Still needs some styling and some bugs ironed out. I'm busy so probably a coupla weeks before release on OD. You like it?
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    the only way i can see it working is if you have javascript detect the screen res and go from there.... you could make the 1024*768 one for dl here and have a link to download a "universal monitor patch" or something, idk. Great work though
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      CommentAuthorbradm81
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008 edited by bradm81 on the 23rd July 2008 at 20:57:52 EDT
     
    I think I've figured out a workable solution using just CSS.

    Say your site has 6 "pages" scrollable horizontally. Ideally then, you can just define the total width as 600% and then give each page a width of 16.6% of that - making it 100% of the original page width.

    This was a good idea but in practice didn't work correctly mainly because fluid width layouts always need some wiggle room. What I really want to avoid is parts of the page being squeezed out into a second row. This can happen two ways: either the total width of the page is greater than 600% of the browser width, or any individual page is more than 100%.

    So to allow for some wiggle room, I defined the total width as 1000% and then each page got 12% of that, so a little over 100% of the original browser width. This seems to work pretty well, thought it still leaves some empty space on the right. I'm at work and don't have the files to upload, so I'll post it later this afternoon.

    Made the changes here, also fixed the anchors so they should go to the right spot now. I appreciate any more feedback and bug reports.
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2008
     
    Slick. I too am thinking of a way to do that cleanly.