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    • CommentAuthor4evrblu
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007 edited by Sean on the 02nd January 2007 at 17:23:43 EST
     
    I realize I am new to the community, and maybe this is wrong, and if it is I leave it up to the moderators to delete this post, but please read this

    http://totalphysiqueonline.com/2007/01/02/woman-mauled-by-dogs/

    I live in Charlottesville. This is a close friend of my brothers. Please RSS my site guys, that is if you want to eventually lend some support. If not, that is cool, but I want to do what I can to help. The girl has no insurance. My brother visted her the other day and the poor girl was just a mess. She is lucky to be alive, but she is facing countless surgeries in her leg from what my brother tells me. And maybe worse. We won't know until a few days from now.
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      CommentAuthorSean
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007
     
    I think your post is fine however I did edit the title to remove TODC, so it now reads "Urgent: Your help may be needed".

    I hope she is ok.

    I'm a huge dog lover but ALL dogs need to be on a leash if out in the open or in fenced yards so things like this don't happen. Simple as that.
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      CommentAuthormdizzle
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007
     
    This is terrible. Some people just know no responsibility...
    I feel that their should be an application process to have a child (after reading numerous articles like this), so maybe their should be an application process to own an animal too...

    What about a lawsuit against the owner of the animal? If I am correct, she is criminally liable for all of the actions of her animals, which at this point seems to be attempted murder.
    • CommentAuthor4evrblu
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007
     
    Guys that is really nice...I appreciate the kind words.

    I will keep you posted if you don't mind.

    Sean, thanks for editing the title.

    Peace
    • CommentAuthor4evrblu
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007 edited by 4evrblu on the 02nd January 2007 at 17:40:24 EST
     
    The owner is a guy. he is a convicted felon out on parole

    he has no assets. No insurance. Nothing.
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      CommentAuthorSean
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007
     
    well if he is out on parole, this could be something to put him back in jail as a violation of his parole by breaking the law.

    depending on the local laws, breeding dogs to fight or having them off leashes is against the law. as always, your mileage may very depending on your area laws but it's something to check into.
    • CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007
     
    mdizzle:

    Unfortunately, there are so many orphaned dogs that having an extensive (read: useful) application process would slow down adoptions and force many shelters (even no-kill ones) to take drastic measures, since they can only accommodate so many dogs.

    (<-- dog parent)
    • CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007
     
    That's awful. I hope she makes a good recovery.

    To own a pit bull is illegal here, but a 7 year old girl was mauled to death over the holidays by one, so there is only so much legislation can do.
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      CommentAuthorDENiAL
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2007
     
    To own a pitbull is illegal here as well, and they shot mine. My dog was a sweet heart, I haven't owned a dog sense. It's all about how your raise your dog, not the breed themselves, and obviouslly this is a piece of sh** dog owner, who should definetlly be held liable. I just feel bad for animals who are brought up to act this way. It really isn't there fault.
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    yup..I definitely blame the dog owners...you give a dog love and attention it needs and it will be a good dog...the same thing applies to raising children: you teach them love, compassion, forgiveness, give them a solid moral foundation, and they thrive.

    I get so sad when things like this happens...I feel bad for the injured parties and really sad for the dog that just doesn't know any better
    sad
    • CommentAuthor4evrblu
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007 edited by 4evrblu on the 03rd January 2007 at 08:14:21 EST
     
    On CNN there was report of yet another PitBull death in the UK after a family Pitbull mauled to death their small 5 year old child. There was no warning. The dog just snapped. Pit Bulls are a strange breed of animal. They are not like other dogs. Denial, I am truly sorry for your loss. I would be interested in knowing more about what happened. But here is the thing....

    My mom ran the animal shelter in Lynchburg, VA for 14 years and she always said that in her experience PitBulls and Rotties were natural killers. One Rottie they had, a sweet dog by all accounts, just snapped one day without warning, and mauled a workers arm beyond recognition. Blood and body fat tissue littered the floor of the causeway at the shelter. Pits are just as bad and in fact are worse in my view. Bare in mind that dogs are dangerous anyway, but add to the mix a genetic killer instinct and no longer have a pet. You have a weapon. Why do you think Police departments use German Shephards, and not PitBulls, for example? And Shephards are MEAN! There must be a reason.

    PitBulls are unpredictable in my view. I do not think that there is anything you can do to domesticate the killer instinct out of them, any more than you can train a thoroughbred horse to only walk and never run. Running is simply in their blood, and you might be able to train a horse to walk most of the time, but eventually that horse will break into a full gallop at some point.

    This type of story is becoming more and more common, but the reason it keeps happening is not because PitBull owners are training their dogs poorly. It is because we refuse to learn the lessons tragedies like this are trying to teach us: namely, that some forces in nature cannot be changed or altered. At least not permanently. A dog is a dog. Dogs bite. A dog with a genetic predisposition for fighting will eventually attack. Count on it.

    Just my two cents.

    Denial, just to make sure I drive the point home...I really am deeply sorry for what you went through. But there are lots of good, gentle dogs out there that need homes. Find one. Bring it home and let it enrich your life, when you are ready of course. I know how it is to loose a loved one and not want to "replace" them. It is very hard.
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      CommentAuthorsnop
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    That's rotten denial...sucks when a breed is considered dangerous because it's usually owned by people that don't raise it properly.
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      CommentAuthoryugnats
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    i hope she's gonna be OK.

    Posted By: mdizzleI feel that their should be an application process to have a child (after reading numerous articles likethis), so maybe their should be an application process to own an animal too...


    so true. i've been saying this for years: you need a license to drive a stupid car but you dont need one to raise a human being! what the hell is up with that?

    i guess what makes me mad is we shouldn't be to the point where we have to consider a license to do things that should be Common Sense. its the old CS problem: there's not enough CS in the world.

    stories like the one mdizzle linked to make my blood boil and i have a hard time reading Newsvine and such. i dont believe in the death penalty but cases like that certainly make me think twice...
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      CommentAuthoryugnats
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    ...and to the topic: i'm not sure if certain breeds are getting a fair shake to be honest. i have a few friends with supposedly 'agrressive' dog breeds and they have had no problems and they all seem to treat their pets very well.

    IMO, i think its similar to the child issue: adults need to look a little closer at their own actions(or inactions) and stop blaming other things/people for the problems in their lives or their childrens.
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      CommentAuthorjanpd24
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    I agree with you.

    But it's really terrible. I hope she's fine.
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      CommentAuthormdizzle
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    I worked at a dog kennel for two years, and I really learned that a dog's breed really has little to do with how it acts. I've play wrestled with a huge rotty, but I've had my thumbnail bitten clean off by an australian sheepdog (its been over a year, and it still hasn't grown completely back...). It's all about how they're brought up.

    @neil: I realize it's not practical, just a thought.
    • CommentAuthorainslie
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    I'm not sure you can blame the dog entirely.

    Yes they are/can be a dangerous dog, but they are bred for fighting by humans. It is humans who have selectively bred these things to be the killers they are.

    I also think that if they are trained and handled properly they can be kept safely but it needs a good owner and unfortunately they often seem to attract the wrong sort of owner.

    @4evrblu: Let me know if you have a collection and I'll make a donation. It won't be huge but every little helps.
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      CommentAuthoryugnats
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    Posted By: mdizzleaustralian sheepdog


    i have no pics online yet but i owned an australian blue healer(sheepdog) for over 13 years starting when i was around 11. his name was jack. and yes, he did have a temper but that was only when provoked. i'm the same way ;)

    the best pet i ever had, period. what a dog, i sure miss the bugger :)

    dont get me wrong: i love out pet cats but they are soooo different compared to dogs, lol.
    • CommentAuthor4evrblu
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007
     
    My brother tells me that there are efforts underway to hold a benefit concert. I will keep everyone posted. I promise!
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      CommentAuthormdizzle
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2007 edited by mdizzle on the 03rd January 2007 at 15:10:00 EST
     
    Posted By: yugnatshe did have a temper but that was only when provoked. i'm the same way ;)

    the best pet i ever had, period. what a dog, i sure miss the bugger :)


    I think the best dog I ever met was an australian sheepdog. I myself own a black lab/golden retreiver cross, and he ain't half bad wink. Great dogs have great owners.
    The worst I've ever met was a poodle named "Peaches". Ugh...Peaches...