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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    correct if i'm wrong but isn't flower template http://www.opendesigns.org/preview/?template=1397

    a rip off from Roshan (Rambling Soul) ????
    • CommentAuthorkalyan
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    Yea pete, you are right...it is a rip off of "UnNamed" - http://www.opendesigns.org/preview/?template=1052 designed by roshan....
    freecsstemplates is pathetic...just managed to change the header image and had his name on it!!!
    • CommentAuthorrobbie
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008 edited by robbie on the 24th March 2008 at 06:25:44 EDT
     
    Checked their site, are kids running it? Because every their review has some sort of a spelling error. Probably adding them selfs reviews heh..


    I'm very glad that I found FreeCss...!!! Thanks to you I can
    create Css Site <font color="#CC0033">for 30 minutes</font>!
    Thank you guys and good luck!

    Yeah.. the site lasted for 30 minutes devil



    Ah. This is a real tale! I get css templates FREE! I
    never thought that I can create my very beautiful site
    during an one hour :-) <font color="#FF0033">Thanks god</font> i find freecss...!


    You should be thanking ramblingsoul and others for the real credits.. *argh*..
    • CommentAuthorconartistdesigns
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008 edited by conartistdesigns on the 24th March 2008 at 06:57:37 EDT
     
    Thats lame. They must hove a liking for RS work if you look at the template they used for their site. Its is defienitly redic. It is indeed morally wrong... but is it illegal since the template was public domain?
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    It's not illegal, it's not even morally wrong, it is simply using an item within the limitations of the license it was released under - in this case public domain.

    Public Domain - Material that anyone can use without the need to give credit.
    So before you jump to conclusions and call people "pathetic" just think to yourselves if there is actually anything wrong with what has been done.
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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    Correct if I'm wrong.. but does that mean I can simply chnage the words of all the PD templates on this site and re submit them as my own? And therefore can someone then simply change the words of 'my' template i've copied and re-re-submit the template as there own as well?

    I can't wait to resubmit Multiflex 5!!!!

    Pete
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    The site has no way to contact the owner. Besides, designers have to start somewhere, and modifying the work of RS would let you get good at design very quickly, or at least get good at imitating Roshan's style. In the flower template, you'll notice that the spacing and colour is a bit off, but it is otherwise pretty good, if simple. I think that we have one or more budding designer(s) here.
    • CommentAuthorconartistdesigns
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008 edited by conartistdesigns on the 24th March 2008 at 17:24:13 EDT
     
    I have a uestion... did they just try to mimick the style of his template of use the same code and just change images.... I have to admit that I have attempted to mimick templates.... its how one learns

    btw... admin contact" sergeylandar at yahoo dot com
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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    I agree designers should be able to use this method to learn and even use but I don't agree it should be appropriate to be submitted back to OD as there own...

    This site would soon lose it's credibility if a dozen of us tweaked Multiflex 5 and resubmitted them as our own.

    I think it's time to make some more 'rules' to ensure this 'thing' doesn't take over OD.

    Pete
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    i have no problem in imitating or redesigning my template (I have done that as well) but i think it would look more authentic if there were some more changes in the template / graphics! the side bar and bullets looks exactly the same , so is the css bakie
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      CommentAuthorramblingsoul
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008 edited by ramblingsoul on the 24th March 2008 at 21:47:37 EDT
     
    Not that i have a problem with it, but here is one inspired by Imagination Template.

    http://www.opendesigns.org/preview/?template=1396

    again, some graphics and codes remain the same!
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      CommentAuthoricyone
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    well it is easy to understand how C$$templa@tes can post so many templates huh? shocked
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      CommentAuthorkirby145
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    pathetic: inspiring mixed contempt and pity; "their efforts were pathetic"; "pitiable lack of character"; "pitiful exhibition of cowardice"


    FreeCssTemplate.net
    "Free Css Templats"
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2008
     
    RS, your designs render properly in both ie and FF, the guys imitating you somehow mangle the code - I was looking at the templates from work on ie7/xp and the ones they made were really wonky to view. Yours rendered beautifully cross browser .... Since I have used some of the templates from this site to create prototypes for various projects, I can't really cast stones, but I do usually significantly modify both code and images for my "revamp" designs and add a "design inspired by" notice on the site if the site goes live. At least you can be proud since "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" - tho they should either get a little more "original" or at least give you some credits.shocked
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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    I still maintain that I don't think it's good practice for this site to allow such submissions.

    I think it's fair to say that OD is here to showcase, promote and recognise original designers not to promote copying (PD licence issues aside). What use does a rebadged template serve? Again I ask the question... what would happen if half a dozen copied submissions where made based on Multiflex5?

    Let 'them' do such on their own website but let's not do it here as well eh?

    I really, really, really, really think we should nip this one in the bud (or I swear... i'll submit Multiflex 5 under my own name!) devildevil
    • CommentAuthorkalyan
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    Not giving credit is thousand times better than taking false credit for someone else's hardwork...

    Posted By: perthmetroI still maintain that I don't think it's good practice for this site to allow such submissions.

    I think it's fair to say that OD is here to showcase, promote and recognise original designers not to promote copying (PD licence issues aside). What use does a rebadged template serve? Again I ask the question... what would happen if half a dozen copied submissions where made based on Multiflex5?

    Let 'them' do such on their own website but let's not do it here as well eh?

    I really, really, really, really think we should nip this one in the bud (or I swear... i'll submit Multiflex 5 under my own name!) devil devil


    Absolutely i agree with you...
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      CommentAuthorgreg
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    the templates aren't simply being resubmitted under a different name; they're being altered in some way. the images and colours are (mostly) different, and these differences may suit some people's needs more than the original template. if designers have a problem with this, use creative commons. but ramblingsoul has said he doesn't have a problem with it - so there really is no issue.
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    Imagination is released under Creative Commons, BTW. wink
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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    Like I said if this site is happy for others to re submit Multiflex 5 with a different image in the header and some colour changes then "Bring on the rain", cause it's gonna be storm season baby!

    Ladies and gentlemen... I give you Pete's first ever template submission to Open designs...


    Copyflex1


    coming soon
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      CommentAuthorgreg
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    a mature and logical way to handle the situation.
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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    You've just made the whole point of my argument very clear Greg... that being, allowing the copying of Public Domain templates and resubmitting them as your own is not a "mature and logical" way for this site to go.

    It's great how sarcasm can draw out the bleeding obvious ;)
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      CommentAuthorgreg
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    i'm going to ditch this thread before it turns into an all out argument, but let me just say that the 'flower template' has around 150 downloads at the time of writing, so clearly it was of interest to some people. it's perfectly reasonable for someone to take a template, make alterations and resubmit it. yes, the decent thing to do would be to credit the original author, but the person who resubmitted it was under no obligation to do so.
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    Apparently rambling doesn't care, so I don't see why we're still arguing points.
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      CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    Posted By: JeremyD... I don't see why we're still arguing points.


    It's not arguing, it's called having an opinion and having the freedom of speech to express it (politely). It's generally what forums are for. Even you're allowed to argue that we shouldn't argue. wink

    The issue isn't whether RambingSoul agrees or disagrees. The issue is the 'dumbing down' of this site to allow the most basic of alterations to PD templates and having them resubmitted (credited to the original designer or not).
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      CommentAuthorJeremyD
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    I don't see a problem with submitting existing templates with modifications to them. Like I would have no problem with Gnome resubmitting his wide versions of Andreas' work. Because it's different enough and it would be beneficial to people to have both that version and Andreas' versions.

    At the same time, I do think it's wrong in this case. Because it's pretty much the same design and does nothing to better the design/code.


    btw, can't wait to see Copyflex1 :D
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    Hmmm... I just took a stab at floating ... how do I upload here (sorry - newbie ;) and yes, there are significant color and layout changes, a few font changes, and some alignment diferences that should make the purists a little happier bigsmile
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    Submit a Design by following that link, or go to your admin section (link top right) and select Submit a Design.
    • CommentAuthorEcko
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    Make sure Copyflex1 has a dark color scheme. All these templates are too light.
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    Thanks Christopher - if the Admins like it, it should be up shortly. bakie
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    There are about 40 designs in the queue so you can expect it up in roughly a week :)
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    Any idea how to post a screen shot up here? I tried clicking the image link above - didn't work.Any idea how to post a screen shot up here? I tried clicking the image link above - didn't work. Guess I can email them to myself at home, host them on my personal site, then link back ... bah! :(
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    You could always use an Image Host, e.g. Tinypic, to host the image.

    The insert image link is for externally hosted images, Open Designs wouldn't host every image people want to put in posts because of the huge extra bandwidth coss it would generate for the site.
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    unfortunately the powers that be here block all sorts of image hosting sites ... but lets see if this works

    and here is a site I am prototyping right now ... opinion?
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      CommentAuthorramblingsoul
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008 edited by ramblingsoul on the 25th March 2008 at 20:35:14 EDT
     
    Posted By: JeremyDApparently rambling doesn't care, so I don't see why we're still arguing points.


    I said I didn't have a problem someone mimicking my style or copying it (as someone noted, i take that as compliment) but, just look at the front page now, you can see 2 more design - Clean and Green and Monochrome being 'ripped off' there is nothing to point out as an inspiration here. you can see that from the css files and the images being used. and you know what ? they were released under CC. if the designer (s) used it to teach him / themselves some css, i don't mind. but submitting it here in OD, and the admins approving it - is certainly not a good practice.

    http://www.opendesigns.org/preview/?template=1399
    ripped from - Clean and green - Released under CC

    http://www.opendesigns.org/preview/?template=1398
    ripped from - Monochrome - Released under CC

    http://www.opendesigns.org/preview/?template=1400
    ripped from - Surreal - Released under CC

    Oh btw, i am quiet flattered bigsmile
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2008
     
    forgive me for sounding confused, but the text in ALL the "ripped off" designs (that were based on code/work by you RS, as well as other people with TALENT) states as follows:

    We request you retain the full copyright notice below including the link to www.freecsstemplate.net. This not only gives respect to the large amount of time given freely by the developers but also helps build interest, traffic and use of our free and paid designs. If you cannot (for good reason) retain the full copyright we request you at least leave in place the Website Templates line, with Website Templates linked to www.freecsstemplate.net. If you refuse to include even this then support may be affected.

    You are allowed to use this design only if you agree to the following conditions:

    - You cannot remove copyright notice from this design without our permission.
    - If you modify this design it still should contain copyright because it is based on our work.
    - You may copy, distribute, modify, etc... this template as long as link to our website remains untouched.

    So hence they are claiming the WHOLE work (original code as well as their modifications) as THEIRS and theirs alone, and taking full credit for it, giving nothing to the people who actually did the code and layout initially. Something about that just doesn't seem right. And I don't find a huge issue with people being "inspired" by a great design (how else do you learn other than imitating the ones who are good at what they do?) but when they claim full credit for something they may have only modified a color scheme and a few graphics on? That does not seem fair to the folks who actually did the real work. *grumble*
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      CommentAuthorkirby145
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
     
    I think what annoys me is the fact their stealing the name freecsstemplates. Freecsstemplates.org i believe is the first one with it and I don't think they like everyone stealing their name
    • CommentAuthorXSQueen
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
     
    Unfortunately that part is not *illegal* (maybe immoral? but not even remotely as immoral as claiming ALL of someone else's work as theirs) if the folks at freetemplates.org did not register the domain. With registrations averaging about 10$ USD, there is not a real reason to NOT register the .net/.com/.org etc variations to cover the use of the domain/name. Naming and "branding" is definitely a big deal but outside of copyrighting the name/identity (which does give you some legal ground) and domains, using the "same or similar" name is unfortunately not illegal. I could tell you a story of what happened to me but it would be slightly OT. :/
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      CommentAuthorgnome
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008 edited by gnome on the 26th March 2008 at 16:14:56 EDT
     
    Roshan: you should email Sean, Chris or Joe and request that those designs be removed. The person appears to be a big fan, so If you make any requests via email, the person or persons are likely to do as you ask (in my opinion, anyways).
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      CommentAuthorkirby145
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
     
    Posted By: XSQueenUnfortunately that part is not *illegal* (maybe immoral? but not even remotely as immoral as claiming ALL of someone else's work as theirs) if the folks at freetemplates.org did not register the domain. With registrations averaging about 10$ USD, there is not a real reason to NOT register the .net/.com/.org etc variations to cover the use of the domain/name. Naming and "branding" is definitely a big deal but outside of copyrighting the name/identity (which does give you some legal ground) and domains, using the "same or similar" name is unfortunately not illegal. I could tell you a story of what happened to me but it would be slightly OT. :/
    Still it is one of the things that you are supposed to do in courtesy and normal behavior on the internet. Not against any laws but completely annoying and stupid.
    • CommentAuthorkalyan
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2008
     
    @pete....waiting for copyflex1 wink

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