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CommentAuthoryugnats
- CommentTimeApr 19th 2008
Posted By: Sean@yugnats: things are not as bad as you make it seem
- the OR contest was a mess and still hasn't been made right
- the back-end (mail, read comments, etc) is still broken
- members are sometimes ignored in the forum by admins for days sometimes weeks
- the mods or greater community have no control over the site or the domain name
- no financial records have been made available
and these are just off the top of my head...Posted By: Seaneven with a non profit sort of set up, there is a huge demographic of people here on OD, so things like which city, state, country, etc would need to be figured out as a home base for OD for a non profit or a corporation set up for the site.
this was all discussed before but a few didn't want to wait. besides, what does it matter what city, etc. the point is getting control away from one single person and as far as i can see joe has total control here. i'm not saying he's going to but whats to stop him from selling the site? then we'd be right back where we started...yet again (third times a charm though, lol)! -
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- CommentAuthorMike Weiss
- CommentTimeApr 19th 2008
I agree that it would be nearly impossible to set up a legitimate non-profit organization, and probably not worth the hassle. However, I also agree that there is no reason that we can't act like one. All that is required is a contract between the current admin and one that takes their place (I like the idea of changing them out frequently as it will allow an admin with different goals to focus on one aspect of the site). The contract would state that the new admin would act in a manner that is wholly loyal to the community. This allows the current admins to control the website, without giving them free reign. I don't even mind if someone held on to an owner title and took some of the revenues to cover expenses of the domain etc. -
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CommentAuthorSean
- CommentTimeApr 19th 2008 edited by Sean on the 19th April 2008 at 16:56:09 EDT
@yugnats: Here is the Google Adsense break down to date/ the most up to date records. I will also do a screen capture and also a CVS file export but for now here are the raw monies earned with Adsense:
May 2007-December 2007 total earned: $642.28 USD
from December 2007 to January 23, 2008: $125.23 USD
from January to February 22, 2008: $206.26 USD
from February to March 25, 2008: $154.90 USD
To date, $1,128.67 USD has been earned with Google Adsense.
I also started a new thread here on the Google Adsense revenue. -
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CommentAuthorperthmetro
- CommentTimeApr 19th 2008
Posted By: Mike Weiss... there is no reason that we can't act like one.
Exactly... this is old ground.
Have a look at this discussion not too long ago (towards the end)
There can be no reason why we at least can act like one even if we can't actually be 'one'.
Openness and transparency is very important - but without making it vunerable.
Admins need to be elected. By some meaningful means?
Money needs to be regularly shown to all Mods/committee members at least and to all members 6 monthly.
the owner of the domain name is really the only issue... the templates are freely available (but would be good if a backup of all of them could be available to all mods/admins should we need to start up again) so that's not a real bother.
Why don't we elect a member/s to take control of the domain name. they must have to satisfy certain criteria to make sure we don't hand it over to a web dork wannabe like me but rather someone or more who know what it involved and has the appropriate stability and accountability etc.
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CommentAuthorarwen54
- CommentTimeApr 20th 2008 edited by arwen54 on the 20th April 2008 at 12:10:13 EDT
okay...now let's get back to the original topic:
contests
Let's have one soon! I like the themes idea..and the theme I'd like to see is
travel destinations
what does everyone think? -
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CommentAuthorkirby145
- CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
On the topic of the website, it still freezes in IE 6. -
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CommentAuthorperthmetro
- CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
Posted By: arwen54what does everyone think?
I don't like it. Not very usable except for blogging backpackers? I'd still like to see a business/non-profit organisation theme -
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CommentAuthorSean
- CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
I'd like to see some design ideas that are not the typical blog looking 2 column designs or based off K2. -
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- CommentAuthorramblingsoul
- CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
1. Old Age Home (Charity)
2. News Paper (Not Blog)
3. Mac Showroom website
4. Grocery Shop
6. Vineyard Website
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CommentAuthorperthmetro
- CommentTimeApr 20th 2008 edited by perthmetro on the 20th April 2008 at 21:59:04 EDT
Posted By: SeanI'd like to see some design ideas that are not the typical blog looking 2 column designs or based off K2.
Me too... having said that lets just pick one, sort out the 'rules' and get the comp going! :) -
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- CommentAuthorSeanPollock
- CommentTimeApr 20th 2008
based off of Sleek. (I have seen tons of mods of this template). -
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CommentAuthorarwen54
- CommentTimeApr 21st 2008
Posted By: perthmetro
Posted By: arwen54 what does everyone think?
I don't like it. Not very usable except for blogging backpackers? I'd still like to see a business/non-profit organisation theme
actually, travel sites are extremely popular, so I don't know where you get that they are not usable...I beg to differ
My opinion is that a contest should be fun! Not drudgery! that's why I absolutely loved the old OWD contests when we did a city theme, and a movie theme...they were fun! -
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CommentAuthorbakercad
- CommentTimeApr 21st 2008
BAKIE Theme!
FTW! -
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CommentAuthorJeremyD
- CommentTimeApr 21st 2008
!!!! bob wins. we definitely need a bakie build off. -
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- CommentAuthordcarter
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
I agree with Karen. The contest should be about having some fun and trying something a bit different. One of the reasons (apart from the outcome) why the OR contest didn't work was because the remit for the contest was to design an "actual" site for a buiness - which is what a lot of us do every day!!
I think a contest should be a chance to try something fun and not "work" related. -
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CommentAuthorperthmetro
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
why not make it a "design what ever you like" contest? -
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CommentAuthorSean
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
I think the idea of themed contests is good. Maybe something with a color theme. Example, we have 3 main base colors (red, green, black) and then use them as creative as possible.
Getting away from the typical blog design would be great. OD isn't in my eyes suppose to be "blog layout central".
It's time for people to get creative and break the mold with something fresh and new design wise. -
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CommentAuthorperthmetro
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
Sounds great... can you make the decision and nominate the theme Sean? -
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CommentAuthorarwen54
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
yes, let's decide and just do it...!
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CommentAuthorSean
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
Well I'm not getting any replies from either Joe or Christopher (I've tried multiple times), so if the majority of the 10 moderators will chime in and back me up, then I'll put up a contest and use the Kontera money I do have access to for prizes. -
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CommentAuthorbakercad
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
I'm with you Sean....since Joe & Christopher have been absent, there's not much left to do but have the moderators decide. We need to determine a theme, prize amount(s) AND judges, then do it!
Odd for Christopher to be so quiet about this stuff.
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- CommentAuthorMike Weiss
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
I would be interested in judging. I don't have the time right now to compete but I would like to help with the contest in some way. -
- CommentAuthorrefueled
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
I'd like to help out as well with the contest. I haven't been involved for a while, but now is the best time to get back into things.
By the way, I think History or Aviation would be a good idea for a contest theme. Or even "redesign your favorite brand." -
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CommentAuthorperthmetro
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
Posted By: SeanWell I'm not getting any replies from either Joe or Christopher (I've tried multiple times), so if the majority of the 10 moderators will chime in and back me up, then I'll put up a contest and use the Kontera money I do have access to for prizes.
good idea... i may even try to submit my first design! scarey! -
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CommentAuthorNeuen
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008 edited by Neuen on the 22nd April 2008 at 23:38:32 EDT
I agree that it would be fun to have one based off a colour palette. Maybe one we could pick a palette from over at ColourLovers ? -
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CommentAuthorgreg
- CommentTimeApr 22nd 2008
methinks we need to compile a list of suggestions and then have a poll to allow everyone to vote on their favourite competition idea -
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CommentAuthorSean
- CommentTimeApr 23rd 2008
I agree with greg... we need a new thread to compile contest ideas, maybe over a week or two, then have a vote... then roll with it. -
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CommentAuthorperthmetro
- CommentTimeApr 23rd 2008 edited by perthmetro on the 23rd April 2008 at 01:16:17 EDT
OD Design Competition VoteTo vote just cut and paste this thread and add your name under the theme you like - Add your own theme if you want.
Votes for
1. a colour theme (to be picked by Sean)
perthmetro,
2. Aviation theme
3. 'No theme' theme
4. Bakie theme
5. Old Age Home (Charity)
6. News Paper (Not Blog)
7. Mac Showroom website
8. Grocery Shop
9. Vineyard Website
10. Travel destination
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CommentAuthorSean
- CommentTimeApr 23rd 2008 edited by Sean on the 23rd April 2008 at 01:19:04 EDT
Um pete, did you catch the part about starting a new thread?
Adding more comments only makes this go on and on. It needs a new thread. -
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CommentAuthorperthmetro
- CommentTimeApr 23rd 2008
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CommentAuthorgreg
- CommentTimeApr 23rd 2008
in regards to the new thread: i really think this needs to be a poll, as adding ideas whilst the voting is going on will just get confusing. -
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CommentAuthorSean
- CommentTimeApr 23rd 2008
@greg: a poll would be good but that is something on the to-do list to fix. Check out the new thread for more information. -
