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    • CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    But I'm amazed here at how many young programming php and design gurus there are. I mean where on earth did these guys get so good so quickly! Jealous? you bet. I'm 38 now and I'm still chuffed I could do the following on my old Commodore 64 when I was their age.

    10 hello world
    20 goto 10
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007 edited by wfiedler on the 23rd October 2007 at 10:10:48 EDT
     
    Pete - when I was 15 (I'm now 48) I knew computers only from SciFi movies. The times have massively changed. I had my first computer (ATARI), when I was about 30!

    These young guys today grow up with that kind of stuff (computer, internet, wikipedia etc.) and they learn very, very fast. With one mouse click you can have any information you want. Isn't it crazy today and how wonderful?

    My kids are 13 (son) and 16 (daughter) and at the age of 8 e.g. my son installed the computers in his school, because his "old" teachers weren't able to do it. WITH 8! He just watched me how to do it and he learned - very fast!

    And I love the young guys here in this community, how they benefit from the experience of the elder members and how fast they learn. Great!

    I was also for long years a teacher with all my heart and I always loved it to teach young people.

    These young guys are our future and remember the mission of TODC: we want to make the internet/the world a prettier place.

    In Germany we say: "Today is a wonderful day, to learn something new!" So always visit TODC! At least I do it every morning at first to see, what these guys here are doing - and I'm also still learning.wink!

    BTW: I'm not jealous - as I said, I love to see so much talents!

    Cheers
    Wolfram
    • CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007 edited by perthmetro on the 23rd October 2007 at 09:41:05 EDT
     
    8 years old and a consultant hardware network specialist! Now if we can teach them how to negotiate a consultancy fee! My 3 year old son can play with a mouse and use Tux Paint. I'm waiting for his Nanna to come over so he can teach her ;)
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007 edited by wfiedler on the 23rd October 2007 at 10:11:57 EDT
     
    bigsmile Give him some years (2-3) and he will program you the perfect CMS you always wanted!wink

    PS: Isn't Angus at the age of 4rolling?
    • CommentAuthorDreamckr
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Hello, I love all these young smart people. I being 34, have a son who is 11. I see it as a learning experience with the bonus of free labor. Instead of saying "go mow the lawn" because we don't have a lawn, its go fix those photos for me. I need them converted to black/white. Set the black to be black and the white to be white. There may be like 34 photos for a newspaper to be done. Sharpen the pictures and increase the dpi.

    *giggles* Nothing like having children who not only love being on your computers but having them do a little work at the same time. Want some screen time, fix my photos first. Then have at it!

    *laugh*
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    34 & 38 old?

    I'm 34, but I'm not old....damnit! I also know a far share of PHP. You can learn it to guys. It's honestly not that difficult. I learned it to create a website for my brother-in-law (which was never done as he dropped the idea), now I use it almost daily creating sites for my clients, helping out with sNews and anything else I'd like. Once you learn it, you open yourself up to a whole lot of possibilities. Give it shot!

    My boys are too young to mow the lawn just yet, but my 4 and 6 yr olds, know how to load their games, use MS Paint and some other things. Their mother is afraid of them getting to be like me :)
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007 edited by wfiedler on the 23rd October 2007 at 10:45:21 EDT
     
    Ey Bob - I'm also not feeling old with 48. In my brain I'm - let's say about 25 - only my bones feel sometimes like 48 wink. I'm too young too die and never too old for Rock 'n' Roll! cool
    • CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Posted By: wfiedler

    PS: Isn't Angus at the age of 4 rolling?


    Yeah he is, just but he was using the mouse at 3 years (I should have said)
    • CommentAuthorMattKern
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007 edited by MattKern on the 23rd October 2007 at 11:01:41 EDT
     
    Along the lines of "What kind of a world will our children live in..."

    check out this youtube video

    It really gets you thinking about our kids future, technology, the dinosaur era public schools (USA)

    it is good.

    Matt (40)
    Noah (4)
    Melody (6 months)



    p.s. Pete, I swear I am going to get my PHP site up soon to help all the PHP newbies because bob is right, it really is not that hard.
    • CommentAuthorMattKern
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Along these same lines ("How kids will learn") check out this great article by one of my all time favorite writers, Seth Godin. If you don't know him, you should.

    The Wikipedia Gap


    Did I hijack this thread? What were we talking about?

    sorry.....
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Hey Matt...are you going it alone on your PHP n00b site or are you looking for any contributors? I'd be happy to write some articles up if you need any assistance.
    • CommentAuthorMattKern
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Well, I was going to go it alone to start and then open the door if there was interest, but it is going so slowly maybe I will open the door now!

    I was also going to do all video but again getting back to the slow part - it is not happening like I thought it was going to.

    I have lately been thinking of doing part video and part text. It is a little more flexible that way. Also, I would probably get it going sooner.

    I have the domain and WP going already and the first lesson series coded.

    Lets talk, eh?

    I will send you an email.

    Now I have completely hijacked this thread!
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      CommentAuthorJJenZz
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Posted By: DreamckrI see it as a learning experience with the bonus of free labor. Instead of saying "go mow the lawn" because we don't have a lawn, its go fix those photos for me.

    Haha, that sounds familiar. My dad is forever asking me to create websites for these amazing ideas he has. I design them and then that's as far as they get because he moves on to a new idea! He's a nightmare to work with. Kinda feel obliged though since I wouldn't be in the industry if it wasn't for him bigsmile
    • CommentAuthorPlex
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Sup guys,it is plexihack,I forgot my pass :D

    Last year,when I was 13,on Informatic class we had a QBASIC programming lesson.Since I already knew it and my teacher saw me bored,he told me to teach instead.He went to Teacher Room and I was a teacher for 5 school hours and teached my class basics of QBASIC.

    I know PHP,HTML,CSS...this is nothing for me,it is just too easy.Now I want to learn asm,c++,c##...I believe in open source,so I wish one day I will have a big company which will discover and employe open source programmers.I will soon start making open source templates.

    It is not true that kids of today are more advanced.We have computers,but many of us don't have the brains to use them,so they just play games.
    I am planning on starting a LG (Lil' Geek) portal for smart kids who like computers,technology,science and geeky stuff.I don't like seeing kids who are smart like me (I can say I am smart,I solved IQ test (one in school) with all correct answers and I was bored while other kids were writing it)
    waste their intelligence on stupid things and destroy their lives with drugs and alcohol.

    By the way,we are Indigo and you are not :P smile

    bakiebakiebakie
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    JJenZz? Who's this new chick? wink
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      CommentAuthorarwen54
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    opening your mind, learning...keeps your mind alert, keeps you young...and at 53 I am NOT old! my teenage son keeps me young too and teaches me a thing or 2 sometimes...but in my family, I'm the most technical wink
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      CommentAuthormdizzle
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Wow arwen, I wish my mom was like that. Whenever I do anything for her on the computer, she says I'm always "moving way too fast!"

    All you "old" parents out there wink, don't get distressed. This is happening, on a smaller scale, between me and my brother. I'm 19 (20 for all intents and purposes), and he still teaches me a thing or two even though he's 15. Proves it doesn't take a 20 year gap to miss some new technology...
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      CommentAuthorsnop
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Posted By: arwen54my teenage son keeps me young too
    Yea, it's hard for me to feel old while I'm building lego tools with my kids. I can't wait until they are old enough for computers.
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    My mother kept my legos from when I was a kid and gave them to my boys. Pretty cool that I get to build stuff with my kids using the same legos I played with.
    • CommentAuthorMike Weiss
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    I got into web design when I was 13, but never really did much with it. Then I did a career analizer thing in middle school that showed me the estimated salary of a web designer in 2004 (The year I graduated from High School) and decided to make it a career.

    I haven't yet broken it from part-time to full-time, but this winter I just may.
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      CommentAuthorsnop
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    Posted By: bakercadMy mother kept my legos from when I was a kid and gave them to my boys. Pretty cool that I get to build stuff with my kids using the same legos I played with.
    My mom did the same thing! The funny thing is that I still like playing with them as much. 29 going on 10 I suppose tongue
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      CommentAuthorJJenZz
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007 edited by JJenZz on the 24th October 2007 at 08:28:00 EDT
     
    Posted By: bakercadJJenZz? Who's this new chick? wink

    har har har tongue

    I started a new job and moved to London so haven't been on as much lately. I began to get withdrawel symptoms though, so i'm BACK bigsmile
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    Yup! She isn't new to TODC. She's a very beautiful, young lady from UK and a very talented web designer.

    Welcome back Jenna!

    We missed you in the last months and good luck with your new job!
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      CommentAuthorJJenZz
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    Heh, I think i'm right in saying that bakercad was just being sarcastic tongue I've bored him with my chit chat in the TODC chatroom many a time in the past!

    Thank you for your lovely compliments and good wishes wfiedler bigsmile
    • CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    Ban her, she make all us look ugly!
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    Yup..I was being sarcastic. Good to have you back Jenna.
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      CommentAuthorjanpd24
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    I'm not old *gasp at thought*, I'm going to be 32 soon... and am by far the most technical person in the family! Though I have to say, my mother's taken to computers like a fish to water! *looks around to see if she's around on TODC* She's a gaming freak (!!) and each time I visit her, she's learnt something new! I'm waiting for her to make inroads into my web design work.

    My dad on the other hand... he's the sort who needs printouts of e-mails...
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007 edited by wfiedler on the 24th October 2007 at 12:09:07 EDT
     
    Ban her, she make all us look ugly!

    Ok Jenna - give us a pic of you to show, what Pete means bigsmile. It would be a great pleasure for me, Pete, Bob (he, he...) and the rest of all the guys here! Hope you don't mind wink

    PS: Now I have also completely hijacked this thread!
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      CommentAuthorJJenZz
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    Haha oh dear... googling me usually finds something i think
    • CommentAuthorwfiedler
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    shamed Tried it! Come on Jenna...cry
    • CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    How's this one Jenna?
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      CommentAuthorJJenZz
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    what has happened to this forum topic ... cry

    yeah perth, that's me but it was about a year ago!

    add me on myspace or something myspace.com/jjenzz ... oh and hope you like my myspace design haha! did it ages ago now but took me AGES so i'm still proud!
    • CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    Yeah that design still gets lots of mention here ... Mint Swirl
    • CommentAuthorperthmetro
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    How do I invite you Jen? I just made up a myspace thingamajig
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    lets not ogle over Jenna now guys....have some respect for the lady.
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2007
     
    Posted By: MattKern
    Lets talk, eh?

    I will send you an email.


    Hey Matt, I didn't receive an email that perthmetro sent to me through the form here and I haven't seen an e-mail from you yet. If you used the form here, can you send it again directly to me at bbaker **at** bakercad **dot** com?
    • CommentAuthorMattKern
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2007
     
    I will do that bob. I didn't actually send one yet. My work life and home life are both pretty needy right now. I will get with you soon.

    Thanks

    matt
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      CommentAuthorbakercad
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2007
     
    no problem....I understand completely
    • CommentAuthorprydonian
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2007
     
    hehe Us "Younguns" wow.

    I remember... I only got a good computer three months ago. Up until then I was using a very old ATARI.

    It was a good computer, though.

    Nathan surfing

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